CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com to purchase the Safety Razor used in this video. Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Safety and Straight Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A 3- Pass Wet Shave Using a Feather All-Stainless Safety Razor. Using a Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen, Let me know if you would like to see a ...
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Sunday, March 3, 2013
PARKER 99R SAFETY RAZOR: Learn How To Shave! Complete DE Shaving From AZ. Brush, Cream, geofatboy
PARKER 99R SAFETY RAZOR: Learn How To Shave! Complete DE Shaving From AZ. Brush, Cream, geofatboy Tube. Duration : 14.10 Mins.
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com to purchase the Safety Razor used in this video. Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Safety and Straight Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A 3- Pass Wet Shave Using a Feather All-Stainless Safety Razor. Using a Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen, Let me know if you would like to see a ...
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com to purchase the Safety Razor used in this video. Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Safety and Straight Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A 3- Pass Wet Shave Using a Feather All-Stainless Safety Razor. Using a Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen, Let me know if you would like to see a ...
Saturday, February 16, 2013
FEATHER JAPANESE STYLE RG RAZOR: IS THIS HOW REAL MEN SHAVE? Non-Folding Straight Style
FEATHER JAPANESE STYLE RG RAZOR: IS THIS HOW REAL MEN SHAVE? Non-Folding Straight Style Video Clips. Duration : 19.40 Mins.
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com to Purchase The Razor and Blades in This Video! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen, Let me know if you would like to see a demonstration or tutorial on how to use any ...
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com to Purchase The Razor and Blades in This Video! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen, Let me know if you would like to see a demonstration or tutorial on how to use any ...
Wednesday, January 30, 2013
The Ultimate Shave with the Ultimate Razor! iKON Open Closed Comb Safety Cream Brush
The Ultimate Shave with the Ultimate Razor! iKON Open Closed Comb Safety Cream Brush Video Clips. Duration : 24.48 Mins.
CLICK HERE: shavenation.com TO PURCHASE THIS SAFETY RAZOR AND OTHER SHAVING SUPPLIES! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Mix lather from a tub or tube in a bowl F) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off G) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard H) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and ...
CLICK HERE: shavenation.com TO PURCHASE THIS SAFETY RAZOR AND OTHER SHAVING SUPPLIES! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Mix lather from a tub or tube in a bowl F) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off G) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard H) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and ...
Friday, January 25, 2013
GILLETTE SUPER SPEED SAFETY RAZOR: HOW DO YOU SHAVE YOUR NECK?? Classic or Traditional Shaving Style
GILLETTE SUPER SPEED SAFETY RAZOR: HOW DO YOU SHAVE YOUR NECK?? Classic or Traditional Shaving Style Video Clips. Duration : 16.78 Mins.
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com To Purchase the YouTube Special similar to items used in this video! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and Folding style. Let me know if you ...
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com To Purchase the YouTube Special similar to items used in this video! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done: SAFETY RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and Folding style. Let me know if you ...
Thursday, January 17, 2013
SHAVING WITH A COBRA: Is It a Safety or Straight Razor? It's an Aggressive Shaver! Shave Tutorial
SHAVING WITH A COBRA: Is It a Safety or Straight Razor? It's an Aggressive Shaver! Shave Tutorial Tube. Duration : 18.05 Mins.
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com TO PURCHASE Fine Shaving Products. Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and Folding style. Let me know if you would like to see a ...
CLICK HERE TO BUY : shavenation.com TO PURCHASE Fine Shaving Products. Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off F) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard G) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard Spartacus, Nahoum Hatem, and Feather No Sharpen Japanese and Folding style. Let me know if you would like to see a ...
Friday, December 21, 2012
How To Shave When You Travel ~ Merkur Razor, Edwin Jagger Travel Brush, Arko Shave Soap Stick
How To Shave When You Travel ~ Merkur Razor, Edwin Jagger Travel Brush, Arko Shave Soap Stick Video Clips. Duration : 11.30 Mins.
CLICK HERE: shavenation.com TO PURCHASE THIS TRAVEL KIT! The best way of Shaving with a Travel Razor while you are on the road traveling! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done/By Geofatboy STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Mix lather from a tub or tube in a bowl F) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off G) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard H) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard ...
CLICK HERE: shavenation.com TO PURCHASE THIS TRAVEL KIT! The best way of Shaving with a Travel Razor while you are on the road traveling! Areyou tired of the pulling and tugging that accompanies using your multi-blade cartridge razor? Sick of battling razor rash and ingrown hairs? Learn how to shave like your Grandfather and Father did! Yes, The old way is the best way!!! For those new to Straight and Safety Razor Wet Shaving, Here is a description of how it's done/By Geofatboy STRAIGHT RAZOR SHAVING. HOW TO PERFORM A shave using a Straight Razor, Badger Brush, and Shaving Cream or Soap From a Tub. A) Shower with Hot Water & Wash Beard with Soap B) Soak Badger Brush in Cup of Hot Water for 2 Minutes C) Fill Sink with Hot Water D) Apply shaving cream to Tips of Badger Brush E) Mix lather from a tub or tube in a bowl F) Apply Hot Water to Beard/Do Not Dry Off G) Apply Shaving Cream or Shaving Soap to Beard H) Very Gently apply the razor to your face at a 30 degree angle. 1) First Pass Straight Down With The Grain 2) Second Pass From Ear to Nose Across The Grain 3) Third Pass: From Nose to Ear with a Slight Upward Motion. Or, if you prefer/South to North against the grain 4) Rinse with Hot then Cold Water. 5) Apply Your Favorite After Shave Lotion or Cream/Preferably Alcohol Free. 6) Now You're Ready to Conquer the World!!!!! Straight Razor and Safety Razor Wet Shaving I also own straight razors by Boker, Dovo, Wade & Butcher, Torrey, Geo Wostenholm & Sons, Thiers Issard ...
Sunday, December 2, 2012
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Wednesday, November 28, 2012
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